Yesterday I met with Norma at Oficina Municipal de la Mujer (OMM) to give her the pictures from the March last Thursday in honor of Dia de non Violencia contra la Mujer. We discussed how women were able to organize themselves into such a large turnout. The majority of women who participated in the March are also involved in various women's groups. She gave me the list of all the women's groups in Aguacatan.
There are 20 groups with anywhere from 20-100 people in each group and are clustered by aldea or community. Groups have specific interest. For example, one group Vivero Forestal focuses on forest/wood collection, DORCAS is organization of women who make bread, Caserio Calin 1 is a group of women who works with seeds and agriculture. All the groups meeting bi-monthly to learn, advocate and support women's rights. All these groups focus on two objectives: Political Formation, which is less about electing the next women president and more about teaching women their basics rights and reading the laws for Guatemalan women. Rights include right to work, right to health care, right to family planning, right to education, and right to nutrition/food. The second objective is Right to Reproductive and Sexual Education.They teach women that they have the right to decide how many children she wants to have. They also use skits to help women prepare for the conversation with her spouse about family planning.
At this point, I have about a week left to collect information on the effects of migration on this community. Here is general conversation I had with Norma, Director of OMM about women's rights.
Me: I would think many women could have fear to talk to a spouse about family planning in fear he may hurt her?
Norma: Yes, remember the announcement for Dia for non Violencia de la Mujer? This is what it was about. More than anything a woman stays in a domestic violent relationship for economics. This is the main reason. She doesn’t have any other way to feed her 5 children.
Me: Do women also think it is normal here or what supposed to happen sometimes?
Norma: Yes, a lot grow up with dad’s who hit their mom. They think it is part of the culture or religion. Those are the other two things that influence.
Me: Do the police do anything about it?
Norma: Yes sometimes, but then the women will feel sorry for her husband and end up going and looking for money to pay her spouse’s fine to get out of jail! 3000Q!
Me: what!? Wow. I talked to someone recently about how having her father in the states for 12 years has affected her family. She said it is hard but in a way kind of good because he used to always beat my mom. Least now he can’t beat her.
Norma: Yeah, the kids are affected the most.
Me: Do men beat women or children more?
Norma: Women. They don’t hit the children so much but the kids are really affected by it. So we have the groups of women who educate and support each other to know their rights.
Me: (I explain my thesis and my reason for being here). Are there groups (pointing to sheet of paper with group names of women) that address women with a spouse in the states?
Norma: No there isn’t.
Me: Why? Because there are too many women in this situation?
Norma: Yes but because often times they are just waiting, waiting for him to come back and he doesn’t call, he doesn’t send any money, nothing. I try and tell these women to work, they need to work because they are just waiting for him to come back. They should have their oldest child watch the others so she can go get a job. She needs to do something otherwise they do not have food or maiz. Sometimes our office gives a little food to these women who are the most poor. One time I called the Oficina de las Mujeres in Huehuetenango. I asked her about what to do for these women who come in and say they don’t have food, my husband doesn’t call, he doesn’t send money. So sometimes we give bags of maiz to women really poor.
Me: So there is not a specific group to help these women but it seems that the main objectives of the Women’s Groups are to support women’s rights which include working and family planning. This is good because if a woman has fewer children there may be less of a need for men to leave….less children to feed and less doctor visits, medicine, etc.
Norma: yes, a lot of women say it is good for their spouse to go but it’s not. They give money but there is no love, no padre, no relationship. Many times these children have a lot of problems. There is no dad to enforce rules. Boys don’t respect their mom and kids 11 to 16 years old start drinking or smoke marijuana. And sometimes women come in here and don’t know what to do. They say, “My daughter is pregnant. I don’t know who with and my husband is in the States.” This happens a lot. Young girls like 14 or 15 get pregnant. They don’t have a dad here that they would be saying “no”.
Me: Yes, I’ve met some young girls who are pregnant here and have a father in the States.
Norma: Yes, and the family disintegrates. The man usually has a new woman up there and the woman has 5 kids here so she starts looking for a new spouse. This is what happens a lot. She gets a new man to take care of her and the family disintegrates.
There is indeed a theme here of families disintegrating but a glimpse of hope as women continue to organize themselves into influential groups and learn their rights!
| Powerful group of young women preparing an announcement for Dia de No Violencia Contra la Mujer for the radio. |
| In William Lopez's recording studio. |
| The March in Action! Women held photos of three women who were killed by their husbands. |